surprizeingly, i am not a jw but an observer and in partial agreement with the jehovah witnesses on many issues.
i have been to many churches in my 30 years and have studied many church beliefs, church history and the bible as well.
so why do i believe the jehovah witnesses are the one true faith of jehovah god?.
These are the people who did not want to conform to the Society and so are rebellious and speak evil.
You hit the nail on the head there Tralon. We are evil cause we don't conform to the Bible, I mean, Society.
Yep, that must mean that you think the Society is inspired of God.
i have seen the video series, but a month or two ago i found a text version of watchtower comments.
it was a fun read but i've never been able to find the link again...
i am in a situation that many of you have faced... whether to stay with my spouse or not after having learned the falsehood of the org.. my wife is diehard witness who gets upset whenever i talk about the org negatively.
she is not happy that i am on jwd... in fact the other day she picked up the keyboard and wanted to throw it accros the room or bash me with it when she saw i was on jwd... she is also very upset about me making friends with "apostates" and worldly people, and told me never to bring them to our home!
this concerns me, since i am not going to have any friends in the org, and i need at least a few friendships...she doesn't want me to talk to the friends in the cong about my decision so that i don't share my doubts.
Thanks everone for their posts... I have been watching at work but have not had the time to sit down and write out a good post in reply.
Flipper: it's better to make a new start in the future with someone we are more suited with , than trying to beat a dead horse .
Thanks for the tip... this is part of what I am thinking about.
Gayle: I don't know what the rate of divorce is for such cases of an xJW w/a remaining JW spouse, but I expect much more that half.
That would make for an interesting thread... But of course, we were talking about divorce even as 2 JW's.
Layla33: That's abuse and the threat of bodily harm and I am sorry there is no excuse religious or not for a woman to threaten a man or do something like that to a man. That's not healthy, and no matter what else, you need to think long and hard about being with a person like that.
This has been an issue as of late that we both get physical due to our intense feelings (even before my declaration of JW independence). Generally its led to a few scratches on the arm, but nothing more. But the potential for more harm is there.
galileo:but a happy marriage between a zealot and an unbeliever probably isn't.
Well, that's us....
cognac: I've noticed hubby has 2 completely and utterly different personalities. One great, 1 that sucks - that ones called "jw mode"...
You described it well!!! 2 modes. Exactly. Sometimes she's like all over me and can't stand the idea of me leaving, but when she detests me, she's the one that brings it up. I read Diane Wilson's book about how JWs are prone to mental illness and I can see that this dual personality can drive a person crazy (both the sufferer and the victim).
Oompa: I had about a year and a half of confrontational, loud, crying WT discussions...not all, but many. Then I SLOWED DOWN and decided the impact of my "awakening" was so great on my psyche that I needed to just shut up and chill a bit.
Yeah, its tough in the beginning to shut - for both of us...
BTW what woke me up? I've posted somewhat about this... stay tuned, its a long story. But it started the week I went to Gilead...hence my name.
I'll continue this post later....
A@G
or have i just missed it?
i finally had to tell my active wife about it....the wt lesson is next week but she has not read it yet, and none of her friends have mentioned it to her.
big buzz in 1995 when i was active, but hear very little except here now.
No buzz in my corner of the world....
Everyones asleep in the tower....
sorry in advance to all of the ones on this forum now, who partook while jw.
i have to say that in my experience, having known personally several who were "of the annointed", most were absolutely dingy.
the only exception was the little ancient gal who had attended the early convention where all attendees were "annointed" en masse!
Baba,
Actually my step-father claims to be of the anointed...
so I felt for a long time...
"There is just no WAY Jehovah would have chosen him/her!!!"
Because of some of his seemingly unchristian ways...
But now I know its just not true.
i do and sometimes i do it when i am happy, when i have had a good meal, when a friend is on the phone and they went to do something - it's my musical interlude.
i think some people hum without noticing it.
i also used to hum to my brother, it was our way of communiting when we were young and a game we played where we would hum a tune and then each of us would try to give a verse.
Actually, I notice that I frequently hum Kingdom Melodies (its only been a few weeks out) and I can't get them out of my head.
thanks to all the hard work by those who post the pdf wt's i have not seen any recent ones from cover to cover in years.. the study article (while you are young, choose to serve jehovah) wt april 15/08.
paragraphs 15-20 talks about the large door open to you.
"have you considered aux or reg pioneering.
I'm just afraid he's been so used to living the "society way" that he won't be able to adapt to the real world.
It's real tough leaving the security of the Bethel compound and then learning that you have to buy food (in a real store, not in the commisary), pay rent (and if you want a nice view, money talks, not years in FTS), pay medical bills (and this is probably what got them thrown out in the first place... the society is not keen on expensive sick bethelites), and pay gas (sorry, go to a regular gas station and oay what the rest of us pay, not cheap subsidized society gas).
Hey it's a lot to face if you went in at age 19 and leave when you're 45 or older. The congs will help to a degree but that does get old quickly. As we say in Spanish "a los tres dias el muerto apesta" (even a cadaver smells after 3 days)....
at some point nearly every day of the week was soiled by the prospect of some 'spiritual' activity.
it took me years of inactivity before i started seeing tuesdays and thursdays as enjoyable, without a shadow hanging over them.
wednesday was always my favorite day of the week.. .
Actually, now that my wife goes to meetings without me, that means that Tuesday and Wednesday nite I can be on JWD all I want. Sunday too...
Now I look forward to meeting nites!
....for october 20 - november 16.. there is a new tract to be introduced, with the title "do you want to know the truth?".
it is not a "kingdom news" campaign - after the campaign, this tract will join the "regular rotation" of tracts to be used in the field misery.. it is designed to replace the "do you want to know more about the bible" tract - the goal is to use it to start "bible" studies.. the goal is to cover all of the congregation's territory in 4 weeks, similar to other campaigns in the past.
unlike other campaigns, though, the congregations can order as many as they would like - they are not limited to 50 per publisher.
"'Do You Want to Know the Truth?', sounding like some sort of political tie-in."
Actually, to me it sounds like something that apostates should write up.
Maybe someone like WTW should create a tract, "Do you want to know the truth about the truth?"
i read of someone on this site that gave a public talk and disassociated himself at the end of the talk.
has anyone here da'd by giving a comment at a meeting?????.
it would be kinda cool with the big generation light coming up to just raise my hand, say i don't believe it, and be done with it.
A@G - I dare you!
Wouldn't it be fantastic if everyone here fading decided that they would DA the weekend of the 'new (or should that be 'recycled') generation teaching' watchtower, or am I just fantasising.....
Sweet Pea,
That's kind of what I had in mind!!!!
I don't think it'l be more than a fantasy though... my JW wife would probably shoot me for it, and my belief in the resurrection is not too strong these days....
